Serre’s 70-acre grounds with breathtaking scenery, rustic meets modern barn that accommodates up to 200 guests, covered patio seating, custom-built farmhouse tables, luxurious décor, outdoor bar, fire pit, and wedding coordinator to help plan it all will make sure your loved ones are not only comfortable; they’ll feel like it’s their special day, too. The luxurious bridal suite, hiking trails, outdoor yoga, fishing, wine by the firepit, and day-of bridal party brunch, our amenities, and extra touches are going to make you feel on top of the world. (And on top of the mountain.)

You've found a modern organic wedding venue in the foothills of NC, offering experience and value in one place. Do you envision your wedding day to be full of excitement? Does it have a beautiful indoor/outdoor setting? Is it decorated with a touch of modern elegance? Is it a day that leaves your guests talking? Are you saying YES? The Emerald Hill is designed to help couples achieve the wedding they want while making planning fun and affordable. This wedding venue is conveniently located in the charming town of Hiddenite, in the beautiful foothills of NC. The Emerald Hill is the wedding venue you didn't think you would find. It's the one that's both Instagram worthy and affordable. Think you might be Interested? Let’s connect!

DuGaren Venues & Vineyards is a family owned business located in Denver, NC. The total square footage of the Venue is 10,000 square feet. There are so many unique elements of the Venue such as the large Winery space entrance doors that were obtained from an old home in Savannah GA, and the free standing fireplace at the Pavilion that was from the original home built on the land back in the 1800's. The venue is a mix of elegance meet rustic and loved by all!

Nestled right off Lake Norman in North Carolina, Chickadee Hill Farms sits on 25 rolling acres. We are a climate controlled post and bean barn with a gorgeous little white chapel. We also have a wooded outdoor ceremony site for the picture perfect wedding. You must also check out our 8 resident miniature rescue ponies. They are the cutest little guys and make for lots of fun at your wedding! Check out our reviews on google to see what brides and grooms are saying about Chickadee Hill Farms! And we must mention we have the BEST onsite wedding coordinator. She is so much fun! We would love for you to come tour with us and see what the Chickadee Hill Farms Family is all about!

Nestled in the rolling hills of Iron Station, NC, we are a charming blend of history & elegance, making it the ideal setting for your special day. Mariposa Chapel & Events was originally founded over 100 years ago, in 1887, as a humble community church. Our historic venue has since been lovingly transformed into a picturesque wedding chapel, preserving its rich heritage while catering to wedding celebrations & more. At Mariposa Chapel & Events, we pride ourselves on offering a versatile & cost-effective venue that seamlessly combines historic charm with contemporary convenience. Exchange your vows in the quaint history of our little white chapel's sanctuary, fall in love again amongst the glory of our mighty oak trees and green garden; or Celebrate a new addition to your family in our fully renovated Reception Hall. ​ Discover the magic of Mariposa Chapel & Events, where history meets romance, & your wedding day is nothing short of extraordinary.

The Lumen House is a private, luxurious, and modern wedding venue set on 50 acres of land just outside of Charlotte, North Carolina. Our space can accommodate you and up to 250 of your favorite people to celebrate the wedding of your dreams.

We are nestled in Huntersville just outside of Charlotte, NC. We have several rooms to choose from to accommodate all party sizes. Our Magnolia Ballroom seats up to 225 guests and includes a large covered patio with a casual feel. The patio can be used as a Wedding Ceremony space or a gather space for meetings or other events. The Magnolia Commons is an open event space that will fit up to 60 guests. Our on-site caterer, Savory Moments will provide decadent meals for any occasion. The sister-owned company recently celebrated their 10 year anniversary - saying they know everything about exceptional food would be an understatement!

Fields at Skycrest is casual elegance at its best! This unique venue is situated on an 95 acre working farm. The setting is relaxed and peaceful while the event space designed is classic and elegant. Whether the couple is looking for an outdoor ceremony surrounded by trees and open fields or a covered outdoor ceremony space, Fields at Skycrest has you covered. The indoor climate controlled reception space that can accommodate 300 guests is light and airy and includes everything from a beautiful fireplace, to a grand metal staircase, to clear doors that can be opened to the large outdoor patio. Couples have the ability to get dressed on site in beautifully appointed suites where every detail has been considered for comfort of guests and vendors alike. All rentals like tables, chairs, and linens are included in the booking fee.

Welcome to The Rafters at Historic St. Mark's, the venue with a Mission! Modern elegance meets 1800s charm, all in service to our community. When you host your event with us, you contribute to our Flyin Lion Ministry, a culinary school for adults with exceptional needs. Our campus sits just 15 min from Uptown Charlotte, yet is tucked away into 14 secluded acres of century old trees. With separate getting ready suites, historic church, & gorgeous reception hall, The Rafters can accommodate your special day without you or your guests needing to travel elsewhere. Crafted with southern charm & offering modern amenities, our exposed beam Rafters wraps you & your guests in the grandeur & beauty befitting the occasion. When you book The Rafters, the campus is exclusively yours for the duration of your event. We have packages to suit most needs, & even have in-house catering for your convenience. Ask us about our tastings! We firmly believe that love is love, & all are welcome in our space.

BanquetOne is an affordable yet elegant Venue for weddings and other events, located in Charlotte near Huntersville. The Venue is equipped and tables, chairs and table cloths for 120 to 150 guests are setup for a flat rate. You can choose any Caterer of your choice or bring your own food & drinks. Quick access from I77 and I485. Please contact us for setting up a tour appointment.

The Historic Dallas Jail, your premier event venue in Gaston County, conveniently located just 30 minutes from Charlotte! Whether you're planning a wedding, corporate event, or special celebration, our elegant and versatile space is the perfect setting for your next memorable occasion. With its historic charm and modern amenities, The Historic Dallas Jail offers the ideal backdrop for events of all types. Our experienced team is dedicated to ensuring your event is a success from start to finish, providing personalized service and attention to detail every step of the way. Explore our website to learn more about our venue and how we can help bring your vision to life. Contact us today to schedule a tour and begin planning your unforgettable event at The Historic Dallas Jail!

The Luxe Event Venue is a beautiful and modern free standing building, purpose built for parties and receptions in 2020. Open vendor policy. 22 FT high ceiling adorned with chandeliers and marble floor. Huge covered patio. Blank canvas design can be tailored to your design and style.

The Hitching Post is a historic private estate which originally started as a log cabin in 1812. We specialize in all-inclusive weddings with on-site catering and DJ. Elopements start at just $795; weddings with full receptions start at just over $2000.

At Cabarrus Country Club, we recognize that "details make the difference" and hold ourselves to the highest quality standard. We know that our services and amenities will be perfect for your next special event. Whether you are hosting a small intimate affair or a large corporate event, we can accommodate your needs. Our personal event planner will work with you to create a magical setting for your special event. We can provide leads for florists, rentals and photographers, create custom designed menus, provide personal chef tables, as well as prepare a wide variety of gourmet foods. Executive Chef Keith Wilson can personalize your menu and prepare an exquisite array of selections to meet your unique style.

Hartsoe Farm, LLC aims to offer our clients a stress-free Wedding/Event of their choice while providing excellent service. Indian Creek runs along the back side of our property. There is nothing more peaceful than the sound of water streaming in the background during your Wedding.

The Venues at Station West are indoor and outdoor multi-purpose event spaces. Our flagship indoor event space, The Union, is a blank canvas and perfect for those ready to create the wedding of their dreams! An industrial vibe with unique finishes, 16' ceilings and views of Uptown Charlotte is capable of hosting up to 300 guests for weddings. The outdoor space, The Plaza, features terraced gardens and seating, and adaptable furniture to accommodate different types of groups and events. Station West is a redevelopment located in Charlotte's historic FreeMoreWest neighborhood. The property is less than 1.5 miles from downtown Charlotte with easy access to Interstates 277 and 77.

Situated on the edge of uptown in emerging North End Charlotte, Petty Thieves was conceived as an embrace of lost places and a rejection of modern ubiquity, on the keel of grassroots innovation and stubborn resilience, with an eclectic seasonal menu of traditional and cutting-edge ales and lagers in a taproom born from churches and libraries, and a few secrets, outfitted with overstuffed couches and rugs, and a shaded patio boasting some of the best uninterrupted skyline views. What you’ll find at our urban oasis is artfully crafted, and anything but off-the-shelf. We’re salvation from the hell of sameness.

Welcome to the Barn at Wildwood Acres! A Wedding Venue like no other. While we have full knowledge of the fact that we are not the only wedding venue around, we can say that we fully invest in couples that decide to book with us! We do not just provide the venue but we also provide an experience that allows us to get to know our couples and their families so we can help out throughout the entire wedding process. In addition, our venue provides an opportunity for all our to enjoy the beauty of the natural wood – inside and out, the beautiful, always flowing creek and pond, and the togetherness of all our amenities in one area.

Located in Historic Downtown Concord, Euphoriia Garden is a unique, intimate setting that allows you to create the moment that you have been waiting for all your life. Our modern, yet soft decor creates a beautiful space to exchange your nuptials. The beautifully curated space combined with their all-inclusive wedding packages, take care of everything, allowing you to focus on the joy of your special day. Say "I do" without breaking the bank or losing your mind over logistics at Euphoriia Garden.

PINE is a modern, industrial blank canvas wedding venue in Charlotte, North Carolina. Located in the heart of the NODA neighborhood of Charlotte, North Carolina, PINE is an industrial-chic, blank-canvas venue full of possibilities. PINE can host up to 320 for a seated celebration, and many more for a cocktail-style reception. PINE boasts 6,300 sq. ft. of unique event space and features a stunning combination of white walls, industrial cement floors, elegant chandeliers, and large windows that needs very little, if any, decor. PINE also offers a fully furnished lounge located on the mezzanine level. PINE offers 24 hour rentals so that you can have access to the venue from 10am on the day of your event to 10am the following day, allowing you plenty of time to set-up and celebrate.

220 North Tryon at Foundation For The Carolinas is located in the heart of Charlotte’s Center City. We offer state-of-the-art spaces for weddings, receptions, celebrations, meetings, fundraisers and corporate events. Event spaces include the Sonia & Isaac Luski Gallery on the first floor of the building, a rooftop vertical garden terrace, a solarium, and multiple board and conference rooms.

Hilton Charlotte Uptown is a hotel wedding venue located in Charlotte, North Carolina. This luxurious hotel is conveniently located uptown and offers unique event spaces, comfortable accommodations, and top-notch wedding and event services. You can trust us to help you create the most amazing, personalized wedding experience imaginable. Hilton Charlotte Uptown offers several event venue spaces, including an 11,000 square-foot ballroom and an outdoor plaza. This venue is an ideal location not only for wedding ceremonies and receptions, but also for engagement parties, bridal showers, and rehearsal dinners. As a hotel, this venue not only offers versatile event spaces, but also guest rooms for you and your guests to relax. Hilton Charlotte Uptown is large enough to host groups of up to 700, making it the perfect place for large, elegant affairs. With unique spaces, traditional decor, and tons of flexibility, this venue could be the right location for your next celebration.

A place to host your next corporate meeting, social gathering, fundraiser, wedding, or gala situated in Charlotte's bustling South End neighborhood. Adjacent to one of South End’s top contemporary art galleries, The Collector’s Room is a renovated warehouse ready for your personal touch. Take your guests' experience to the next level by hosting your event with us.

Customize your forever. When you book a wedding with Le Meridien you get a whole lot more than a venue. Our very own certified wedding specialist becomes your key point of contact. Full transparency makes the process of your biggest day stress free. Let us handle the details. Located in Uptown Charlotte, Le Meridien is a venue for your whole occasion. We offer the special opportunity to say I do against the backdrop of Charlotte Skyline. All the way to the farewell brunch with your traveled attendees. We are here to give you the wedding of your dreams. If you don't see what you are looking for, call to schedule a consultation to discuss.

Whether bride or princess, write your story with Crystal Ballroom Charlotte. Our all-inclusive event and wedding venue transforms according to your design and theme. Meet with master designers inside of the design studio and choose exclusive designs from an overflowing treasure trove of décor. Bring imagination to the charming space of Crystal Ballroom Charlotte, and celebrate your moments where dream events come true.

Experience the magic. Wide open pastures with a beautiful 7600 sq. ft barn venue that sits next to a one of a kind bamboo forest. Our beautiful event barn, magical bamboo forest, horses, goats, and waterfront location on Lake Wylie offer a unique event experience for all occasions with capacity for up to 225 seated indoors and up to 400 outdoors. Just 20 minutes from the Charlotte airport, 10 minutes from hotels, and 20 minutes from uptown Charlotte, we are conveniently located yet tucked away in our own secluded oasis. Schedule your private tour and explore our 33 acres for yourself, right outside of Charlotte, NC.

The 658 Center is a beautiful and innovative venue to host a variety of Charlotte events. Featuring a 7,000 square foot multipurpose space with a full stage, lighting and audio visual equipment, it is the perfect place to host weddings, banquets, fundraising events and conferences. Your guests will enjoy the lobby and cafe space that make up a natural and perfect pre-event space to allow people to mingle and gather in style and comfort before the main event. Project 658 kitchen staff can cater for any of your event meal needs. The Center also has all your catering needs from tables, linens, and all place settings. The Mission of the 658 Center is to provide an integrated path for holistic life change through the love of Christ. All proceeds from rentals directly impact ministry projects funded by Project 658. Therefore, choosing The 658 Center for your event means you are choosing to give back to our Charlotte community.

Sugar Creek Brewing Co. is a Charlotte, NC local craft brewery in the heart of the lower SouthEnd (LOSO) neighborhood. We carefully combine the watchful eye of a Trappist Monk with the technical precision of nuclear engineering to craft fresh, full-flavored beers that are immensely satisfying and intensely drinkable. Using unique combinations of aromatic yeast strains, domestic and imported hops and award-winning malt varietals, Sugar Creek infuses traditional recipes with modern tastes and techniques to create beer that nourishes both mind and body. Sugar Creek Brewing Company has a variety of private event spaces available for rental. Our warm and inviting earth tone and natural wood decor is sure to make you and your guests feel at home in our brewery.

Daniel Stowe Botanical Garden is a unique wedding venue located in Belmont, North Carolina. They're situated 30 minutes from Uptown Charlotte, and provide a garden oasis filled with fountains, nature trails and a conservatory dedicated to tropical plants and orchids. Couples can choose from multiple indoor and outdoor options for both their ceremony and reception. Daniel Stowe Botanical Garden prides themselves on their experienced event professionals, customer service staff and team of horticulturalists.

The Embassy Suites Charlotte/Ayrsley is located in the pedestrian friendly area of Ayrsley. There are restaurants, a bowling alley and a movie theater within walking distance of our hotel. The Eastover Grand Ballroom is 7,000 sq ft with a 18' ceiling and can accommodate up to 360 people in rounds of 10.

Big R Orchards - Wedding and Event Venue is located on top of Brushy Mountain in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains near Wilkesboro, NC. Enjoy the beauty and romance of 150 acres of family owned & working apple & peach orchards with a 6 acre lake and golf green peninsula with amazing mountain views. The pavilion was uniquely designed and hand-crafted by friends & neighbors. The elegant bridal suite is spacious with over 1000 sf of space, private bathroom, & hair and makeup stations. There is a full commercial caterer's kitchen, public bathrooms, and grooms suite. The open but covered grand hall is 6000 sf with 2 huge chandeliers, Edison string lights, post lights, and a huge rock fireplace. There are also motorized curtains on the west side that can be closed or opened with a touch of a button. The dance floor is spacious and magical, covered with Edison string lights and open to the sky. We would love to give you a tour of this magical place! Cheers! Scott Robinson

In 1929, Jean-Pierre Auguste Dalmas, a Waldensian immigrant from Villar Pellice, Italy, started construction on the dairy barn on his property in Valdese, NC. After the barn had been completed, work began on the main house. He built a rock veneered masterpiece, large enough to house his 7 children. He cleared a field for a vineyard and until his death in 1972 (at the age of 92), he made wine in the basement of the main house every autumn.

Our 427 acre venue offers a delightful mix of indoor and outdoor spaces perfect for your ceremony, reception, and every joyful moment in between. We have multiple ceremony sites including Wedding in the Woods and Meadowview which overlooks the serene countryside. Enjoy our 3,200 square foot garden patio and elegantly lit Fern Hall for your climate controlled reception. Get ready in our luxury bridal suite and our grooms lodge. Accommodate up to 20 guests with our on-site lodging. Services Offered: We provide customized packages tailored to your wedding size. We partner closely with your selected licensed vendors to ensure your day unfolds exactly as you envision it. With our helpful planning resources, and Wedding Day Coordination we will reduce the stress and complexity that comes with planning your wedding day. You can relax knowing that our experienced team of wedding professionals is walking along beside you on this wonderful journey of wedding planning!

Nestled in the heart of Appalachia in Wilkesboro, NC, this hidden gem offers not just a venue but an unforgettable experience. Imagine saying "I do" amidst the rolling hills, budding gardens, and wide open grounds all on a beautiful 18 acres. With over 3,000 square feet of open space in the main venue building, complete with a wooden dance floor, a cozy stage, and a large bar, you can dance the night away under twinkling lights. Whether you're envisioning a fairytale "cottage-core" celebration or a moody, Old World European-inspired affair, The Cellar’s blend of natural textures and romantic vibes can easily transform to match your style. The friendly staff is dedicated to making your day as magical as possible—they’ve even pulled off last-minute weddings and ones without power (they're that amazing!). Plus, with budget-friendly package options, you can focus on what matters most: celebrating your love story. It’s not just a venue—it’s where your happily ever after begins! 💫

Located in Mount Pleasant, North Carolina, The Coach House Wedding & Event Venue is a banquet hall that is situated in a beautiful countryside setting. Designed to meet couples' celebratory requirements, this destination is a sight to behold. Nestled in the rolling hills of Mount Pleasant, it's a convenient distance from both Charlotte and Concord. There are indoor and outdoor facilities on the premises, offering great spaces for both ceremonies and receptions. The property enjoys a tranquil atmosphere while benefitting from modern amenities. From rustic themes to sophisticated affairs, The Coach House Wedding & Event Venue can accommodate it all.

Olde Sycamore is the perfect setting for any private event. Our space is designed to hold small groups and be the ideal intimate setting or larger groups up to 120 and still be the perfect place for your event. Our staff strives to make you event planning process as seamless as possible and does the set up and clean up for you.

Uptown Indigo is a family owned and operated venue with two floors and a breathtaking rooftop terrace. The design is "chic industrial" with lots of artistic details. From the original tin ceilings to the handmade tiles, Uptown Indigo is a truly unique wedding venue. The venue can accommodate up to 220 seated guests, with the largest space being the 6,000 square foot Indigo Ballroom. This ballroom is characterized by its modern light fixtures combined with original historic elements. It is fully accessible with a vintage elevator and large, elegant bathrooms. The Steeples Event Space is on the top floor, complete with a prohibition-era, rustic space for cocktail hours or smaller ceremonies. The detailed tile ceilings along with the warm lighting give the space a romantic, yet fun feel. Lastly, the Rooftop Terrace offers 800 square feet with a view of Shelby and the mountains in the distance. Submit inquiries directly through our website at https://www.uptownindigo.com.

Sixty Acres, A Gathering Place is a barn wedding venue located in Mount Pleasant, NC which is located 35 minutes from downtown Charlotte, 20 minutes from Concord, NC, and 20 minutes from Albemarle, NC. The property is set on 60 acres of picturesque farmland, adding to its charming, rustic atmosphere. Known for its spectacular sunset views, couples from across the state travel there to celebrate their love in a lush, natural farm setting. At Sixty Acres, A Gathering Place, you and your partner can host up to 250 guests for your milestone occasion. When celebrating there, your day will begin at the brand new, two-story barn situated at the heart of the property.

The Aloft Charlotte Ballantyne loves to host wedding guests. We offer courtesy room blocks with no penalties or obligations for up to 10 guests per night with the flexibility of adding additional rooms. The Aloft features urban-inspired loft rooms with high ceilings and excellent technology. Our upscale amenities include a heated indoor pool and 24 hour fitness center with a Peloton bike. Our shared spaces are open and creative and your guests will love mixing and mingling at W XYZ lounge or playing pool at our free billiards table. Most of all, your guests will enjoy our superior service team and will feel right at home!

Welcome to Bella Terra! The climate-controlled ballroom is a unique combination of rustic and glam decor. The front and back glass doors allow guests to enjoy the outdoor views year-round. One of the unique features of Bella Terra, is the two fully furnished apartments available for overnight accommodations for up to 12 guests. Professional landscaping and mother nature, make Bella Terra beautiful no matter the season or weather.

Just 1 hour east of Charlotte, LinCrest farms is a family-owned Century Farm located in the heart of Yadkinville North Carolina. We offer Both indoor and outdoor venue options. Our outdoor pavilion offers a covered area for about 40 guests in addition to larger open area for tents, dance spaces, and seating that overlooks some of our rolling pastures, home to our Black Angus cattle, herd donkeys, and family horses. Our Indoor Ball Room space, originally an 18-wheeler repair garage, has been converted into a more elegant, yet rustic space for all to enjoy. This space offers a prep kitchen for your preferred caterer, a bridal suite, and a large heated/cooled ceremony space for up to 200 guests. We offer 5 parking lots, with no stair entry for easy wheelchair access. We also partner with many local vendors to give our clients many easy-to-find options for their big day.

Nestled high above the beautiful Queen City, Hestia Rooftop offers an unparalleled setting for a wedding that’s both sophisticated and memorable. This chic rooftop venue boasts panoramic views of the city skyline, providing a breathtaking backdrop for your special day. Imagine exchanging vows as the sun sets behind iconic skyscrapers, casting a warm, golden glow over the horizon. As evening falls, the city lights come alive, creating a sparkling tapestry of lights that enhances the romantic ambiance. The venue features a spacious, open-air terrace adorned with modern and stylish furnishings. Our LED ceiling and trim provide a magical illumination, transforming the space into an enchanting wonderland as the night progresses. For cooler evenings, cozy up with built-in heaters and firepits. Accessibility is a priority, with convenient elevator access and ample space for guests to mingle and enjoy.

Distinctive wedding + event venue offering historic charm and modern luxuries. We invite you to experience the charm and elegance of WinMock at Kinderton. WinMock is a place of magic, of first looks and families. A deep history of friendship can be felt in the very grass of the estate, and an air of warm memory lingers in our buildings. The property itself symbolizes a piece of local history with national acclaim, created more than 90 years ago and home to one of the largest dairies in North Carolina. We believe in building relationships here at WinMock. Our team regularly goes above and beyond to ensure your special day is as smooth as your first dance. Take a look around our venue; imagine what this place will mean next year.

Welcome to Westbend Tavern (formerly Westbend Winery). Located in the historic Joel Benjamin Hauser House, this renovated slice of history now houses the best tavern and intimate venue space in the Triad. From the breathtaking views and our rich history. We host all styles of parties and weddings.

Welcome to Holland Brooks, where history and modern elegance meet to create an unforgettable backdrop for your special day. Originally the iconic Dixie Furniture building, this beautifully restored space combines industrial charm with sophisticated details, perfect for couples looking to celebrate in a venue with character and style. With its spacious layout and unique distillery, Holland Brooks offers a one-of-a-kind experience that captures the romance of the past and the promise of the future.

Coley Hall at The Liberty began as a run-down century old Tobacco Warehouse. After being purchased by Elkin native Cicely McCulloch, the space was transformed into a beautiful wedding venue. However, one cannot help but notice the space’s rich history. With an industrial feel, century-old exposed beams overhead, weathered wood, and distressed brick, it’s the definition of rustic elegance and can be tailor-made to fit any style. Keep things simple by utilizing the existing beauty of the space, or dress it up with elegant sheer fabrics draped overhead. Even if you are not DIY savvy, our staff is here to provide inspiration to ensure your vision comes to life!

Spend the weekend or the week celebrating with your closest family and friends on the rivers edges of Wilson Creek gorge. Find yourself completely unplugged, sitting by the fire, eating s'mores, or tubing down the river or just spending quality time in an engaging and meaningful conversation with a loved one. Brown Mountain Beach Resort is a timeless combination of rugged beauty and elegance for those who desire a unique wedding experience. With riverfront cottages and yurts that sleep up to 80 guests on site, you can let the sunset over the gorge and the gentle sound of Wilson Creek provide the most captivating setting for your big day and truly let time and nature rejuvenate your mind body and spirit.

quiet + quaint, customize-able, secluded + connected and most importantly, a Legacy in itself. Our venue offers public access to the family farm of your wildest dreams. Scenery, options, space, adventure, comfort, grace...you name it. Located just outside Charlotte, NC in the north east corner of Union County. Inspired by out late leader of the family, Gregory Moore - We vow to offer a place he would be proud of. One that cultivates family and thrives off Legacy. We would do anything in this world to have him here with us still, but we know for sure he has held our hand through this whole journey. What great things ever came from our comfort zone, right?